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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:59 pm

Ziegler has not been traded, again

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:02 pm

UMFan83 wrote:We're not in on Ziegler apparently



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Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:06 pm

keep the space available for Doolittle
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Postby big ball chunky time » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:07 pm

"Doolittle" is Theo's take on the trade deadline ok folks that's my good tweet for the day see you at 3 pm
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Postby Banedon » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:17 pm

LOL Levine..




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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Derwood » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:29 pm

Indians acquire Leonys Martin
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Bertz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:29 pm

squally1313 wrote:Can someone tell me why we'd want Brad Ziegler and his 4.58 FIP?


He's a proven soft contact guy with an elite groundball rate who even in a down year is very strong against righties. He's basically a B+ Steve Cishek clone.
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Postby UMFan83 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:38 pm

Sounds like the Diamondbacks are likely landing spot for Ziegler
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby squally1313 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm

Thanks everyone for the Ziegler explanations. Ground ball rate is very attractive, but he's getting hit hard this year.

Either way, I woke up looking forward to a Bryce Harper trade, and now we're on like hour 2 of the Brad horsefeathering Ziegler watch. Someone needs to do something cool here.
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Postby Outshined_One » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:44 pm

I would feel okay if the Cubs opted to go dumpster diving for relief help on the waiver wire. I like Ziegler, but I don't think they have the farm to trade for a high level reliever and I don't foresee anyone on the 25 man getting moved until the offseason.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:55 pm

Outshined_One wrote:I would feel okay if the Cubs opted to go dumpster diving for relief help on the waiver wire. I like Ziegler, but I don't think they have the farm to trade for a high level reliever and I don't foresee anyone on the 25 man getting moved until the offseason.

When you see what these RPs are going for we pretty easily could’ve matched most of the packages with just minor leaguers that it’s taken to get them. I think we will get something still and think it might even be something pretty good/cool yet.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Bertz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:01 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Outshined_One wrote:I would feel okay if the Cubs opted to go dumpster diving for relief help on the waiver wire. I like Ziegler, but I don't think they have the farm to trade for a high level reliever and I don't foresee anyone on the 25 man getting moved until the offseason.

When you see what these RPs are going for we pretty easily could’ve matched most of the packages with just minor leaguers that it’s taken to get them. I think we will get something still and think it might even be something pretty good/cool yet.


Yeah I think Kirby Yates might be the only reliever on the block who would have an acquisition cost that causes any consternation.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:05 pm

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Outshined_One wrote:I would feel okay if the Cubs opted to go dumpster diving for relief help on the waiver wire. I like Ziegler, but I don't think they have the farm to trade for a high level reliever and I don't foresee anyone on the 25 man getting moved until the offseason.

When you see what these RPs are going for we pretty easily could’ve matched most of the packages with just minor leaguers that it’s taken to get them. I think we will get something still and think it might even be something pretty good/cool yet.


Yeah I think Kirby Yates might be the only reliever on the block who would have an acquisition cost that causes any consternation.

Yeah I’m still hoping for 1 of Yates, Pressly or Conley. And holding out hope for something big out of left field
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby champaignchris » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:14 pm

I’m breathlessly awaiting Tommy Pham verbally unloading on the Cardinals organization the minute he reports with the Rays. We all know it’s going to happen.

Does that make me a bad person?
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Postby CubsWin » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:26 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
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Cubswin11 wrote:When you see what these RPs are going for we pretty easily could’ve matched most of the packages with just minor leaguers that it’s taken to get them. I think we will get something still and think it might even be something pretty good/cool yet.


Yeah I think Kirby Yates might be the only reliever on the block who would have an acquisition cost that causes any consternation.

Yeah I’m still hoping for 1 of Yates, Pressly or Conley. And holding out hope for something big out of left field

Pressly already traded to the Astros, but I like the other two!
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Regular Show » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:29 pm

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Postby Southpaw19 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:33 pm

Every year on this day, I think of the scene in Moneyball, where Beane is working the phones like a mad man. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Theo/Jed's office.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby TMan92 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:33 pm

champaignchris wrote:I’m breathlessly awaiting Tommy Pham verbally unloading on the Cardinals organization the minute he reports with the Rays. We all know it’s going to happen.

Does that make me a bad person?


More room for Newcomb and Hader. I love it when a plan comes together.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby ConstableRabbit » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:51 pm

Sick 2013 rotation, brah.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby PackLandVA » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:00 pm

Does a trade for another starter possible free up Monty (and others) for a bigger trade? Or is it to get Monty in the BP to add to the super bullpen?
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby UMFan83 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:01 pm

Call me crazy but I don't hate trading for Harvey if the cost is minimal. I like the idea of acquiring a crapload of pitchers and hoping 3-4 of them work out.

Strangely at the same time, I would love it if Harvey was the Brewers deadline move because I don't fear him at all.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Bertz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:02 pm

Matt Harvey is clearly not broken anymore and if you're a glass half full guy you might even call him average.
However, even with our rotation's struggles there's no one I'd want him to replace post-Chatwood.
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Re: Regular Season Rumors

Postby Banedon » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:04 pm

I'm fine with Harvey depending on the price.
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