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Re: The Cardinals

Postby PackLandVA » Mon May 20, 2019 3:31 am

d_money wrote:A lotta Cards on the wrong side of 30 - Fowler, Molina, Carpenter, Goldschmitt, Mikolas, Miller - with significant financial commitments. They could get old/bad real fast.


Gosh, that would be awful.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby soccer10k » Wed May 22, 2019 6:05 pm

soccer10k wrote:He meant that all of their starters are equally mediocre that any one of the 5 could be their No 1.

It is pretty impressive that all 5 of their starters have ERA’s between 4.34 and 4.93.


Well so much for that. Wacha up to 5.80.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby champaignchris » Wed May 22, 2019 6:16 pm

soccer10k wrote:
soccer10k wrote:He meant that all of their starters are equally mediocre that any one of the 5 could be their No 1.

It is pretty impressive that all 5 of their starters have ERA’s between 4.34 and 4.93.


Well so much for that. Wacha up to 5.80.


I don’t think he ever recovered from that 2015 playoff series. A big difference in his career stats before and after that series.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby squally1313 » Wed May 22, 2019 6:18 pm

champaignchris wrote:
soccer10k wrote:
soccer10k wrote:He meant that all of their starters are equally mediocre that any one of the 5 could be their No 1.

It is pretty impressive that all 5 of their starters have ERA’s between 4.34 and 4.93.


Well so much for that. Wacha up to 5.80.


I don’t think he ever recovered from that 2015 playoff series. A big difference in his career stats before and after that series.


As much as I'd enjoy that being the case, his best year came in 2017. He's been pretty worthless since then though.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammys Boombox » Thu May 30, 2019 5:12 pm

They haven’t won a series since going 3-1 against Washington April 29-May 2.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The_Achiever » Thu May 30, 2019 5:27 pm

Sammys Boombox wrote:They haven’t won a series since going 3-1 against Washington April 29-May 2.


Yeah they've been awful for a while. Makes me a little wary of this series.

Friday and Saturday are night games so I'm guessing it'll be a lively atmosphere as far as Cardinals games go (BORING). Also the cup final in town.....
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CubInOK » Thu May 30, 2019 6:01 pm

d_money wrote:A lotta Cards on the wrong side of 30 - Fowler, Molina, Carpenter, Goldschmitt, Mikolas, Miller - with significant financial commitments. They could get old/bad real fast.

They still won’t trade Yadi for Mike Trout. Also, Harrison Bader is the next Trout, so they don’t need the actual Trout.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby PackLandVA » Thu May 30, 2019 6:50 pm

I thought Harrison Bader was the next Randall Grichuck before everyone realized Grichuck suck,
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu May 30, 2019 7:01 pm

How much suck does a Grichuk suck?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Banedon » Fri May 31, 2019 8:14 pm

Molina to 10 day DL.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri May 31, 2019 8:15 pm

Banedon wrote:Molina to 10 day DL.

sticky chest syndrome?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Andy » Fri May 31, 2019 8:18 pm

Banedon wrote:Molina to 10 day DL.

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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby CubInOK » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:37 am

The Cardinals will be doomed to win 80-83 games a season, never make the playoffs, and never get impact prospects on their current path. They have to either have an off-season like the Phillies just had or start tanking. There are no good free agents until Bryant walks I guess, and I don’t think they will ever be allowed to have a 60-win season.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby d_money » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:19 pm

Pitching wise, Martinez and Reyes have set them back big time. Flaherty is learning/growing but not the #1 type just yet.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby champaignchris » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:48 pm

d_money wrote:Pitching wise, Martinez and Reyes have set them back big time. Flaherty is learning/growing but not the #1 type just yet.


Wacha is only 27 and has fallen apart. Mikolas might be a one-year wonder.

They've gotten absolutely nothing in trade for various young cost-controlled position players that were once thought to be a part of their core - Grichuk, Pham, Piscotty, Diaz. And so had to trade Alcantara and Weaver for Ozuna and Goldschmidt.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Tryptamine » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:38 pm

Their extensions have been absolute nightmares so far. 36 year old Molina is making $20M this year and $20M in 2020 while putting up an 82 wRC+. 33 year old Matt Carpenter is due $18.5M in 2020 and another $18.5M in 2021 with a 2022 option of $18.5M while providing a 97 wRC+ so far this year. 33 year old Dexter Fowler is due $14.5M this year and again in 2020 and 2021 putting up a wRC+ of 106. 30 year old Mikolas is due $15.75M each year from now through 2023 and putting up a 4.74FIP/4.40SIERA.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:43 pm

Tryptamine wrote:Their extensions have been absolute nightmares so far. 36 year old Molina is making $20M this year and $20M in 2020 while putting up an 82 wRC+. 33 year old Matt Carpenter is due $18.5M in 2020 and another $18.5M in 2021 with a 2022 option of $18.5M while providing a 97 wRC+ so far this year. 33 year old Dexter Fowler is due $14.5M this year and again in 2020 and 2021 putting up a wRC+ of 106. 30 year old Mikolas is due $15.75M each year from now through 2023 and putting up a 4.74FIP/4.40SIERA.


31 year old Goldschmidt(5/130 extension starting next year) is also on pace for a career-worst season, about 3 fWAR and a sub .350 wOBA.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby champaignchris » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:13 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Tryptamine wrote:Their extensions have been absolute nightmares so far. 36 year old Molina is making $20M this year and $20M in 2020 while putting up an 82 wRC+. 33 year old Matt Carpenter is due $18.5M in 2020 and another $18.5M in 2021 with a 2022 option of $18.5M while providing a 97 wRC+ so far this year. 33 year old Dexter Fowler is due $14.5M this year and again in 2020 and 2021 putting up a wRC+ of 106. 30 year old Mikolas is due $15.75M each year from now through 2023 and putting up a 4.74FIP/4.40SIERA.


31 year old Goldschmidt(5/130 extension starting next year) is also on pace for a career-worst season, about 3 fWAR and a sub .350 wOBA.


They could very easily go the way of the Giants.
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Re: The Cardinals

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Tryptamine » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:49 pm

In perhaps one of the more baffling promotions I've seen in a while, the Cardinals have decided to promote 20 year old Nolan Gorman from A to A+. Gorman hasn't exactly torn up A ball, posting a .199/.323/.348 line since May 1st, a span of 192PAs. He's also striking out 29.2% of the time.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:52 pm

Tryptamine wrote:In perhaps one of the more baffling promotions I've seen in a while, the Cardinals have decided to promote 20 year old Nolan Gorman from A to A+. Gorman hasn't exactly torn up A ball, posting a .199/.323/.348 line since May 1st, a span of 192PAs. He's also striking out 29.2% of the time.

probably got busted for DUI in Peoria and they want to get him out of state.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby The_Achiever » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:39 am

Andrew Miller looks extremely washed up too.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Bull » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:50 pm

The_Achiever wrote:Andrew Miller looks extremely washed up too.

It's almost like pitching 2-3 innings on back to back days eventually catches up with you.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:11 pm



They replaced the bad OF who wasn't hitting with a good OF posting .349/.435/.547/.982 in 80 game between double and triple-a
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