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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:28 am

Edith Cox wrote:

They replaced the bad OF who wasn't hitting with a good OF posting .349/.435/.547/.982 in 80 game between double and triple-a

What about activating the bad hitting catcher?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:26 am

Cubswin11 wrote:What about activating the bad hitting catcher?


I'm sure they are more than happy to have him back as well, especially if he's healthy and starts to hit again. Even hurt Molina was better than their 3rd string guy and Wieters who was getting exposed catching everyday.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby NonProfitCow » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 am

Edith Cox wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:What about activating the bad hitting catcher?


I'm sure they are more than happy to have him back as well, especially if he's healthy and starts to hit again. Even hurt Molina was better than their 3rd string guy and Wieters who was getting exposed catching everyday.

Yeah, I'm super pumped that we're going to be starting Yadi and his .654 OPS over Wieters and his exposed .744 OPS.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Derwood » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:38 am

NonProfitCow wrote:
Edith Cox wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:What about activating the bad hitting catcher?


I'm sure they are more than happy to have him back as well, especially if he's healthy and starts to hit again. Even hurt Molina was better than their 3rd string guy and Wieters who was getting exposed catching everyday.

Yeah, I'm super pumped that we're going to be starting Yadi and his .654 OPS over Wieters and his exposed .744 OPS.


That's First Ballot Hall of Famer [tm] Yadi's .654 OPS
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:41 am

NonProfitCow wrote:Yeah, I'm super pumped that we're going to be starting Yadi and his .654 OPS over Wieters and his exposed .744 OPS.


I would rather they stuck with Wieters who has been exposed with a .609 OPS the last 3 weeks along with the other catcher having a .570 OPS. There is a reason why Yadi is a HOF catcher and nobody other than the Cardinals wanted Wieters this winter.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:44 am

Careful guys. Criticizing hugely overrated and washed up Cardinal players and wifebeaters trigg...I mean, riles this guy.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:45 am

Edith Cox wrote:There is a reason why Yadi is a HOF catcher


Unless that reason he was secretly almost 40 the entire time and it doesn't matter that he's 37 and broken now, then who gives a horsefeathers.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:47 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
Edith Cox wrote:There is a reason why Yadi is a HOF catcher


Unless that reason he was secretly almost 40 the entire time and it doesn't matter that he's 37 and broken now, then who gives a horsefeathers.


How do you know he's still hurt?

Are all our hurt guys going to be broken when they come back of the IL too, or is this just a SSS Cardinals thing?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:03 am

Edith Cox wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
Edith Cox wrote:There is a reason why Yadi is a HOF catcher


Unless that reason he was secretly almost 40 the entire time and it doesn't matter that he's 37 and broken now, then who gives a horsefeathers.


How do you know he's still hurt?

Are all our hurt guys going to be broken when they come back of the IL too, or is this just a SSS Cardinals thing?

Maybe? But the 37 year old catcher who was awful this year, has a million miles on his body, was never that good to begin with, and has battled injuries the last few years and has hit .266/.303/.423 with a 92 wRC+ since 2017 is probably a decent bet to be pretty horsefeathering bad moving forward.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:06 am

Edith Cox wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
Edith Cox wrote:There is a reason why Yadi is a HOF catcher


Unless that reason he was secretly almost 40 the entire time and it doesn't matter that he's 37 and broken now, then who gives a horsefeathers.


How do you know he's still hurt?

Are all our hurt guys going to be broken when they come back of the IL too, or is this just a SSS Cardinals thing?


Haahahaha! Too good.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:15 am

Cubswin11 wrote:Maybe? But the 37 year old catcher who was awful this year, has a million miles on his body, was never that good to begin with, and has battled injuries the last few years and has hit .266/.303/.423 with a 92 wRC+ since 2017 is probably a decent bet to be pretty horsefeathering bad moving forward.



I hope he costs them tons of games going forward, but they are a way better team with him on the roster vs Knizner.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby NonProfitCow » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:57 am

Edith Cox wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:Maybe? But the 37 year old catcher who was awful this year, has a million miles on his body, was never that good to begin with, and has battled injuries the last few years and has hit .266/.303/.423 with a 92 wRC+ since 2017 is probably a decent bet to be pretty horsefeathering bad moving forward.



I hope he costs them tons of games going forward, but they are a way better team with him on the roster vs Knizner.

Doesn't work that way. Yadi is going to start 90% of games.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:00 am

NonProfitCow wrote:
Edith Cox wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:Maybe? But the 37 year old catcher who was awful this year, has a million miles on his body, was never that good to begin with, and has battled injuries the last few years and has hit .266/.303/.423 with a 92 wRC+ since 2017 is probably a decent bet to be pretty horsefeathering bad moving forward.



I hope he costs them tons of games going forward, but they are a way better team with him on the roster vs Knizner.

Doesn't work that way. Yadi is going to start 90% of games.



It does work that was. YM is better than a exposed MW and MW is better that the prospect they had backing up.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Thed Hoyerstein » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:05 pm

He's a cardinals fan. All makes sense now
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:03 pm

It feels like we've had this happen multiple times: rando dude shows up who seemingly hates everything about the Cubs except the things that most everyone else here dislikes, which the rando defends well past the point of sanity, and then they also end up acting as hardcore Brewers and/or Cardinals defenders in how they talk about them like they're these terrifying, nigh-unbeatable forces.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby squally1313 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:36 pm

It's just...imagine dying on these hills. I'm all for wasting an afternoon debating minutiae, but cherry picking a sample size to debate the relative merits of one washed up catcher vs another to try and decide who will be the 17th best player on another team for 6 weeks of baseball, and then like...quadrupling down. Jesus.

And that's to say nothing about the disaster that the Russell thread has turned into.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:49 pm

Oh, so now I'm a Cardinals fan because I have common sense to know they are better with Molina on the roster? I'm sure if you poll their pitchers everyone of them is happy he's back even if his thumb was still messed up.

DEF for Cardinals catchers
+3.7 Molina
-3.3 Wieters
-2.8 Kinzner

#Ithinkthosetinfoilhatsaremessingwithyourbrains.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:52 pm

Edith Cox wrote:Oh, so now I'm a Cardinals fan because I have common sense to know they are better with Molina on the roster? I'm sure if you poll their pitchers everyone of them is happy he's back even if his thumb was still messed up.

DEF for Cardinals catchers
+3.7 Molina
-3.3 Wieters
-2.8 Kinzner

#Ithinkthosetinfoilhatsaremessingwithyourbrains.

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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:59 pm

STARVE THOSE KIDS.

STARVE THOSE KIDS.

STARVE THOSE KIDS.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:49 pm

Using stupid hashtags should be enough for a ban.
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:56 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:Using stupid hashtags should be enough for a ban.

#unintendedconsequences
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:57 pm

#butwhatabouttonykemp'skids?
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Edith Cox » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:38 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:#butwhatabouttonykemp'skids?


#WhatKids
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Thed Hoyerstein » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:53 pm

Edith Cox wrote:Oh, so now I'm a Cardinals fan because I have common sense to know they are better with Molina on the roster? I'm sure if you poll their pitchers everyone of them is happy he's back even if his thumb was still messed up.

DEF for Cardinals catchers
+3.7 Molina
-3.3 Wieters
-2.8 Kinzner

#Ithinkthosetinfoilhatsaremessingwithyourbrains.


With Molina catching, Cardinals pitchers's NL rankings are 10th in FIP and 9th in WAR with below average framing to boot. He's literally been a negative to their staff.

The defensive plus rating which you referenced is 29th in baseball behind defensive wunderkind Victor Caratini
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Re: The Cardinals

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:57 pm

Edith Cox wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:#butwhatabouttonykemp'skids?


#WhatKids


Oh, so now you spitefully want Tony Kemp to never be able to know the joys of bringing life into the world? YOU SAVAGE ANIMAL MONSTER.
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