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Re: Addison Russell

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:04 am

Two player lines
Player A
OPS .669
OPS+ 75

Player B
OPS .663
OPS+ 74

Player A is Jose Macias' career line (remember the Gremlin?) Player B is Addison Russell this year. (his 2nd half OPS is somewhere around .450 FWIW)

He's not only toxic off the field, he's so bad on the field that we can't even justify trading him in the offseason because we'd get absolutely nothing in return.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:15 am

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:Two player lines
Player A
OPS .669
OPS+ 75

Player B
OPS .663
OPS+ 74

Player A is Jose Macias' career line (remember the Gremlin?) Player B is Addison Russell this year. (his 2nd half OPS is somewhere around .450 FWIW)

He's not only toxic off the field, he's so bad on the field that we can't even justify trading him in the offseason because we'd get absolutely nothing in return.



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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:16 am

Everything about Russell makes me want to horsefeathering barf. His ceiling right now is, like, Castro with good defense, and he'd be lucky to even get to that.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:30 am

his defense is overrated too
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Derwood » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:31 am

If Dusty were managing, Russell would be batting first or second every single day
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:55 am

Not like the sick leadoff hitter they had today.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:56 am

And by that I, of course, mean yet another player who makes me barf.
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Postby UK » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:58 am

I'm hoping that he could be included for a closer that is an upcoming FA on a team rebuilding (like Herrera), but I doubt he has enough value for that.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Derwood » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:00 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Not like the sick leadoff hitter they had today.


Almora would be Dusty's other pet
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby UK » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:04 am

Derwood wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Not like the sick leadoff hitter they had today.


Almora would be Dusty's other pet


Think lower, who is Tom Goodwinesque on the roster right now?
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Postby UMFan83 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:08 am

UK wrote:I'm hoping that he could be included for a closer that is an upcoming FA on a team rebuilding (like Herrera), but I doubt he has enough value for that.


It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby UK » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:37 am

UMFan83 wrote:It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury


I'll eat crow if he becomes good but I still hope he's gone.

To pile onto IMBs thoughts, the best season of his career (2016) is equal to Khalil Greene's avg. year (+94 RC).
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:14 am

Russell has a wRC of 27 in the second half which i believe is bad
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:26 am

UK wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury


I'll eat crow if he becomes good but I still hope he's gone.

To pile onto IMBs thoughts, the best season of his career (2016) is equal to Khalil Greene's avg. year (+94 RC).


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Re: Addison Russell

Postby ScrubMD » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:47 am

UMFan83 wrote:
UK wrote:I'm hoping that he could be included for a closer that is an upcoming FA on a team rebuilding (like Herrera), but I doubt he has enough value for that.


It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury


I was stupid and didn't want them to trade him last offseason because I figured 2017 was just an off year and he'd after more value after he rebounded.

This time next year, he'll be Chris Giminez on offense and will have also developed gout or syphilis or something and will suck on defense.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby mul21 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:55 am

I keep hoping he’s hurt like Zo was last year and just needs the offseason to get healthy.
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Postby 17 Seconds » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:31 am

mul21 wrote:I keep hoping he’s hurt like Zo was last year and just needs the offseason to get healthy.


that would mean he's been unhealthy for 2 years in a row, which wouldn't fill me with confidence either
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Banedon » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:19 pm

Geez, I mean, he's had a bad season. No doubt about it. But it's not like a player has never had a bad season (or two) and come back the next year or anything. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But I'm not ready to declare him terrible forever at
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:50 pm

Banedon wrote:Geez, I mean, he's had a bad season. No doubt about it. But it's not like a player has never had a bad season (or two) and come back the next year or anything. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But I'm not ready to declare him terrible forever at
Sammy Sofa wrote:only twenty fourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I was promised Barry Larkin. F that.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Backtobanks » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:42 pm

ScrubMD wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
UK wrote:I'm hoping that he could be included for a closer that is an upcoming FA on a team rebuilding (like Herrera), but I doubt he has enough value for that.


It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury


I was stupid and didn't want them to trade him last offseason because I figured 2017 was just an off year and he'd after more value after he rebounded.

This time next year, he'll be Chris Giminez on offense and will have also developed gout or syphilis or something and will suck on defense.



You weren't the only one. Posters jumped all over me when I suggested that he should be traded while he still had a decent reputation. My other suggestion was that we should have traded Schwarber when he was the second coming of Babe Ruth. Now that he's a platoon LF/DH, his value has dropped too.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby 17 Seconds » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:05 pm

Backtobanks wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury


I was stupid and didn't want them to trade him last offseason because I figured 2017 was just an off year and he'd after more value after he rebounded.

This time next year, he'll be Chris Giminez on offense and will have also developed gout or syphilis or something and will suck on defense.



You weren't the only one. Posters jumped all over me when I suggested that he should be traded while he still had a decent reputation. My other suggestion was that we should have traded Schwarber when he was the second coming of Babe Ruth. Now that he's a platoon LF/DH, his value has dropped too.


if posters jumped on you for suggesting these trades, it must have been for your suggested returns
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby treebird » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:05 pm

Backtobanks wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:
It makes a lot more sense to hold onto him and pray that his hitting is affected by his hand injury


I was stupid and didn't want them to trade him last offseason because I figured 2017 was just an off year and he'd after more value after he rebounded.

This time next year, he'll be Chris Giminez on offense and will have also developed gout or syphilis or something and will suck on defense.



You weren't the only one. Posters jumped all over me when I suggested that he should be traded while he still had a decent reputation. My other suggestion was that we should have traded Schwarber when he was the second coming of Babe Ruth. Now that he's a platoon LF/DH, his value has dropped too.


in fairness, everytime i give you a suggestion, you just don’t reply and then when i check the papers there are never any stories about a guy who shoved his head up his own butt
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby davell » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:17 pm

Banedon wrote:Geez, I mean, he's had a bad season. No doubt about it. But it's not like a player has never had a bad season (or two) and come back the next year or anything. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But I'm not ready to declare him terrible forever at
Sammy Sofa wrote:only twenty fourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


Couple his season with the fact he's a horsefeathers human being, I'm sure most are over him. Strictly from a baseball standpoint, my guess is he'll be healthier and back to not being a complete black hole offensively. That said, I'm over him, trade him for a solid reliever and be done with it.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Backtobanks » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:30 pm

17 Seconds wrote:
Backtobanks wrote:
ScrubMD wrote:
I was stupid and didn't want them to trade him last offseason because I figured 2017 was just an off year and he'd after more value after he rebounded.

This time next year, he'll be Chris Giminez on offense and will have also developed gout or syphilis or something and will suck on defense.



You weren't the only one. Posters jumped all over me when I suggested that he should be traded while he still had a decent reputation. My other suggestion was that we should have traded Schwarber when he was the second coming of Babe Ruth. Now that he's a platoon LF/DH, his value has dropped too.


if posters jumped on you for suggesting these trades, it must have been for your suggested returns



Actually I don't think there were any suggested returns. It was a discussion about trading off our ML roster because the ml are pretty bare and posters were suggesting Happ and/or Almora and I posted that Russell and Schwarber ould be included because their "names" might get us a better return and we could have in house replacements.
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Re: Addison Russell

Postby Banedon » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:21 pm

He's not helping my case any today.
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