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Postby biittner77 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:05 pm

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Brian wrote:ffs on Instagram the Cubs had a fan question q&a with him and the first question they used was "How did you get your nickname?" and he explained it.


They found him passed out drunk in the cargo hold of a FedEx plane? Is that it?

I thought it was after his favorite type of pant.


Shorts, actually, but I'll allow it.
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Postby biittner77 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:06 pm

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Brian wrote:ffs on Instagram the Cubs had a fan question q&a with him and the first question they used was "How did you get your nickname?" and he explained it.


They found him passed out drunk in the cargo hold of a FedEx plane? Is that it?


Freddie Mitchell had his own plane?


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Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:39 pm

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Brian wrote:ffs on Instagram the Cubs had a fan question q&a with him and the first question they used was "How did you get your nickname?" and he explained it.

Poorly worded maybe but it's not that bad of a question. Who started calling him that, when he started embracing it, etc. are par for the course as far as lame non-baseball questions. I think we can give this person the benefit of the doubt and assume that they weren't interested in the etymology.


I will give the benefit of the doubt that it was a kid under 12, anything else is unacceptable.
But that just raises the question of parents allowing access to instagram to kids under 12.

Meh, it's a pretty standard type of thing that would come up in Vineline (RIP) or an equivalent team-sponsored bio.

"It's funny -- the first person to call me CarGo was my high school manager. He was a great mentor to me, blah blah blah."

Definitely not the one question I'd ask the guy though.
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Postby The Logan » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:12 pm

"I saw Carlos Gomez using it and I liked it a lot so I took it and now we're in an eternal struggle for title supremacy and one day when we meet in the heavens we will have the ultimate showdown for God's favor"
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Postby GaryWoods » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:49 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Leo Gomez goes into that large, faceless pile of "people who played 3b at some point for the Cubs" with no differentiating traits.

Honestly you could take any Hispanic-sounding male name and tell me they played 3b for the Cubs in the 80s or early 90s and my brain would say "oh yeah, that guy."


I typically associate that era of Cub third basemen with milquetoast white dudes: Vance Law, Steve Buechele, Todd Zeile, Kevin Orie. Although Gomez and Luis Salazar did play enough games there to be listed as the starter for a couple of seasons each.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:08 pm

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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Leo Gomez goes into that large, faceless pile of "people who played 3b at some point for the Cubs" with no differentiating traits.

Honestly you could take any Hispanic-sounding male name and tell me they played 3b for the Cubs in the 80s or early 90s and my brain would say "oh yeah, that guy."


I typically associate that era of Cub third basemen with milquetoast white dudes: Vance Law, Steve Buechele, Todd Zeile, Kevin Orie.


Same. If someone told me Steve Buechele played 3B for the Cubs for a decade, I probably wouldn't even blink.
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Postby biittner77 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:54 pm

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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Leo Gomez goes into that large, faceless pile of "people who played 3b at some point for the Cubs" with no differentiating traits.

Honestly you could take any Hispanic-sounding male name and tell me they played 3b for the Cubs in the 80s or early 90s and my brain would say "oh yeah, that guy."


I typically associate that era of Cub third basemen with milquetoast white dudes: Vance Law, Steve Buechele, Todd Zeile, Kevin Orie.


Same. If someone told me Steve Buechele played 3B for the Cubs for a decade, I probably wouldn't even blink.


I know what you mean but if it really was Buechele for 10 years that doesn't check out with the Cubs trying literally everyone they could think of at 3rd. For example, Delino DeShields and somebody named Shane.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:56 pm

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I typically associate that era of Cub third basemen with milquetoast white dudes: Vance Law, Steve Buechele, Todd Zeile, Kevin Orie.


Same. If someone told me Steve Buechele played 3B for the Cubs for a decade, I probably wouldn't even blink.


I know what you mean but if it really was Buechele for 10 years that doesn't check out with the Cubs trying literally everyone they could think of at 3rd. For example, Delino DeShields and somebody named Shane.


Right; I just remember it as a parade of nondescript white dudes for whatever reason. You could tell me any one of them was there for years.
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Same. If someone told me Steve Buechele played 3B for the Cubs for a decade, I probably wouldn't even blink.


I know what you mean but if it really was Buechele for 10 years that doesn't check out with the Cubs trying literally everyone they could think of at 3rd. For example, Delino DeShields and somebody named Shane.


Right; I just remember it as a parade of nondescript white dudes for whatever reason. You could tell me any one of them was there for years.


http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/chc/history/players.jsp

Shane Andrews. Also Howard Johnson. Was Bote really up during 2012?
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Postby GaryWoods » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:18 pm

biittner77 wrote:Shane Andrews. Also Howard Johnson. Was Bote really up during 2012?


No, must be a typo. He was with the Arizona rookie team all year.

I remember wishing the Cubs would trade Dunston for Johnson back in the '80s when HoJo was a beast. Unfortunately we ended up with the "What the hell ever happened to that guy?" version instead, about three years too late. Not the first time or the last, of course.

At least in CarGo's case if he doesn't pan out we're only out the league minimum and a roster spot that would probably be filled by someone else just as bad anyway.
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Postby OleMissCub » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:40 am

Ron Coomer, Tyler Houston, Bill Mueller.

It all changed with that wonderful man named Aramis
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Postby ConstableRabbit » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:56 am

OleMissCub wrote:Ron Coomer, Tyler Houston, Bill Mueller.

It all changed with that wonderful man named Aramis

I’m pretty sure Houston was mainly a catcher though, right? Mueller was good but had that nasty knee injury.
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Postby cl smooth » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:43 am

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OleMissCub wrote:Ron Coomer, Tyler Houston, Bill Mueller.

It all changed with that wonderful man named Aramis

I’m pretty sure Houston was mainly a catcher though, right? Mueller was good but had that nasty knee injury.


iirc, the cubs used Tyler Houston as a quasi super-utility player during his time with the team.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:50 am

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OleMissCub wrote:Ron Coomer, Tyler Houston, Bill Mueller.

It all changed with that wonderful man named Aramis

I’m pretty sure Houston was mainly a catcher though, right? Mueller was good but had that nasty knee injury.


iirc, the cubs used Tyler Houston as a quasi super-utility player during his time with the team.

Quasi-super-utility is really something.
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Postby biittner77 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:57 am

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OleMissCub wrote:Ron Coomer, Tyler Houston, Bill Mueller.

It all changed with that wonderful man named Aramis

I’m pretty sure Houston was mainly a catcher though, right? Mueller was good but had that nasty knee injury.


Tyler Houston came up as a catcher but the Cubs played him at 3rd as part of their "Let's try everybody at third" program. As far as catchers playing third, Houston was better than Jake Fox or LLoyd McClendon.
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Postby OleMissCub » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:36 pm

David Kelton. I remember him being a candidate for our “third baseman of the future”. By the time he had his cup of coffee he was an outfielder IIRC.
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Postby David » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:19 pm

I was sure Kelton would be awesome because his name sounded like Helton.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:22 pm

I was sure he'd be awful when the man in charge told coaches not to coach him because his swing was already perfect.
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Postby GaryWoods » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:55 pm

OleMissCub wrote:Ron Coomer, Tyler Houston, Bill Mueller.


I don't know that Mueller really fits into the discussion because he was actually good. Which is probably why the Cubs traded him (with cash) for an injured minor league relief pitcher who never took the field in the Cubs system.
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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:12 pm

David Kelton and Brendan Harris were guys I was really looking forward to panning out. Oops.

Nic Jackson too.
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Postby GaryWoods » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:41 pm

Post Count Padder wrote:David Kelton and Brendan Harris were guys I was really looking forward to panning out. Oops.


Along with Bobby Hill, Hee Seop Choi, Augie Ojeda, etc., etc.

Okay, maybe not Augie Ojeda.

Nic Jackson too.


I learned recently that he just retired a couple of years ago.
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Postby OleMissCub » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:46 pm

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Post Count Padder wrote:David Kelton and Brendan Harris were guys I was really looking forward to panning out. Oops.


Along with Bobby Hill, Hee Seop Choi, Augie Ojeda, etc., etc.

Okay, maybe not Augie Ojeda.

Nic Jackson too.


I learned recently that he just retired a couple of years ago.


Roosevelt Brown was also a minor league stud who I had high hopes for
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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm

GaryWoods wrote:
Post Count Padder wrote:David Kelton and Brendan Harris were guys I was really looking forward to panning out. Oops.


Along with Bobby Hill, Hee Seop Choi, Augie Ojeda, etc., etc.

Okay, maybe not Augie Ojeda.

Nic Jackson too.


I learned recently that he just retired a couple of years ago.

Yeah he played in Indy ball forever. Not a Cub but Lew Ford is still playing baseball, outfielder/hitting coach for the Long Island Ducks.
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Postby UMFan83 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:42 pm

I remember getting excited about Jason Dubois even thought he wasnt really a prospect.
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Postby biittner77 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:01 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:I was sure he'd be awful when the man in charge told coaches not to coach him because his swing was already perfect.


I believed until they moved him off third base.

I don't know that Mueller really fits into the discussion because he was actually good. Which is probably why the Cubs traded him (with cash) for an injured minor league relief pitcher who never took the field in the Cubs system.


Remember the ceaseless threads about moving Mueller to second base? That was at Cubs.com
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