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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:10 am

Box Scores:

Iowa had the day off

Tennessee lost 6-1 Box Score

Myrtle Beach lost 3-1 Box Score

South Bend lost 5-4 Box Score

Eugene in progress Box Score

AZL Cubs 1 and 2 had the day off

DSL Cubs 1 won 13-5 Box Score

DSL Cubs 2 won 7-4 Box Score
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:20 pm

Yohendrick Pinango came into the day 4th among 17U DSLers with 120+ PAs in wRC+, wOBA, and Rs, 2nd in IsoSLG and SBs, 3rd in BA and BABIP, 1st in doubles and K rate...2/5 with a double today, ~.360/.450/.480 with a 7.5% K rate in 132 PAs
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:26 pm

Yesterday was Nico's 2nd pro game with multiple Ks
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Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:13 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Yohendrick Pinango came into the day 4th among 17U DSLers with 120+ PAs in wRC+, wOBA, and Rs, 2nd in IsoSLG and SBs, 3rd in BA and BABIP, 1st in doubles and K rate...2/5 with a double today, ~.360/.450/.480 with a 7.5% K rate in 132 PAs


Definitely been fun to follow. The ISO stat is a bit misleading due to your qualifier of 120+ PAs (drop it to 100 PAs and he isn't anywhere near the top), but the rest of the game has been nice. I wish we had an idea how many of his boatload of doubles are "hustle" doubles so common in the lower levels of the minors, and which ones are legit.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:56 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:Definitely been fun to follow. The ISO stat is a bit misleading due to your qualifier of 120+ PAs (drop it to 100 PAs and he isn't anywhere near the top), but the rest of the game has been nice. I wish we had an idea how many of his boatload of doubles are "hustle" doubles so common in the lower levels of the minors, and which ones are legit.


Eh, expanding the pool of players from <100 to 210+ by chopping off nearly 20% of PAs in an already small sample to make sense of anyone's power at this stage is alot. Also guys pushing 100 are already 4-5 games behind Pinango in PAs, himself missing nearly 10% of the possible games played so far, in a lowest level league where the margins are tight during a 72 game season and most teams are at 32. Basically 120 was as much about getting a better sample size with what's done as it was making Pinango shine more. Outside of maybe catchers, injury or weird delays maybe, I'm probably missing guys more on the Ezequiel Alvarez or more optimistically Carlos Morfa tier by not going down to 100 to be honest.

If doesn't collapse over the next 125+ PAs he should get, 2020 Pinango might show similarly surprising game power as Ademan did in 2017, possibly with more BA, gap power, and similar patience. Long way to go tho, like this post of mine...
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Postby CubinNY » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:44 pm

At the Smokies/Biscuits game. Nico rapped a double off the wall on the first pitch.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:03 am

Gonna start calling Nico 6 to 12
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Postby Hrubes20 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:12 am

Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.
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Postby CubinNY » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:56 am

I think the Biscuits have nine steal attempts tonight. They’ve been successful like 6 times. The Smokies pitchers are really slow to home. Also, the Smokies manager got tossed. The ump is squeezing the zone pretty bad.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:13 am

Hrubes20 wrote:Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.

I wish they were trying him in CF, honestly. Just as much for this year as next year.
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Postby Regular Show » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:17 am

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Hrubes20 wrote:Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.

I wish they were trying him in CF, honestly. Just as much for this year as next year.


Yeah, I was going to mention this. I think they might consider it in the offseason and I believe some scouts (not for the Cubs) think that would be his best position defensively.

I guess if Robel Garcia is the REAL DEAL and looks legit (and can handle 2B next year) then maybe you consider playing Nico in CF.

Not sure honestly, but more versatility never hurts.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:22 am

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Cubswin11 wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.

I wish they were trying him in CF, honestly. Just as much for this year as next year.


Yeah, I was going to mention this. I think they might consider it in the offseason and I believe some scouts (not for the Cubs) think that would be his best position defensively.

I guess if Robel Garcia is the REAL DEAL and looks legit (and can handle 2B next year) then maybe you consider playing Nico in CF.

Not sure honestly, but more versatility never hurts.

Yeah and with Bote and Robel around for this year at least 2B should be covered. CF/OF is the hole in the team now and next year. Plus with Nico being a SS all these years you’d figure 2B would be a pretty easy transition, CF would be the real test but if he works out there it probably helps the team the most.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:30 am

Hrubes20 wrote:Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.


Two straight games. He's going to be at AAA really soon (and I assume Happ will be in the bigs at the same time).

Nico has a chance to be in Chicago on 9/1.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:21 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Two straight games. He's going to be at AAA really soon (and I assume Happ will be in the bigs at the same time).

Nico has a chance to be in Chicago on 9/1.


Yeah, I don't think any of this is wild with team needs and his bat being what it's been

Edit: Should add that I also don't think it'd be wild if they traded him for a multi-year starting MIF or CF this summer either. He's been hurt often in his short time as a Cub and still climbed up a top 100 or two anyway, which seems noteworthy in a hypothetical "is he untouchable(?)" discussion
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Postby Regular Show » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:14 am

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Hrubes20 wrote:Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.


Two straight games. He's going to be at AAA really soon (and I assume Happ will be in the bigs at the same time).

Nico has a chance to be in Chicago on 9/1.


I think that is super ambitious and I doubt that very much. I think Nico could handle it, but regular playing time will be hard to come by, especially when/if Zobrist is back and Robel is still doing well. Maybe Happ comes up and gets some semi-regular playing time.

Maybe they could play Nico in CF, but I don't think the Cubs are going to experiment playing him there this year.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:14 am

de la Cruz gave up some runs out of the bullpen but does have 13 Ks to 4 BBs, 7 Hs, and 0 HRs in his 11 innings as a reliever. Same with Underwood at 16 IP, 19 Ks, 0 HRs, 6 BBs with Iowa....Send one to the Royals with Chatwood for Kennedy, the other to the Tigers for Castellanos, please!
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Postby Regular Show » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:32 am

Hrubes20 wrote:Nico starting at 2B tonight. Very interesting.


Good article. I was trying to find it earlier. Highly recommend it:

https://bastian.mlblogs.com/ive-really- ... 4849e3deab

Q: Did you get a chance to try any different defensive things while in college that help set you up for being here?
NH: “I played second my freshman year and then short the last two years. I’ve mainly been in the middle infield my whole life, but I’ve always felt like, if you can play short especially, you can probably move around a good bit and I feel like you’ll have a good foundation for that.”

He's played second base before and I was pretty sure he played the position some in college.

Q: You’ve been quoted as saying you know that you need to be able to play multiple positions in order to play with the Cubs. Do you think it’s important to embrace that type of versatility?
NH: “Last night, it was Cubs-Dodgers. Those are two of the teams that probably do that the most with, not just utility guys, but some of the biggest stars in the game playing different places. So, you’re crazy if you think you’re only going to play one spot. So, if you’re able to hit and you can play a lot of positions at a high level, you’re going to be able to help a team out and be in the lineup for as many days as you can be, which is the goal at the end of the day.”
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Postby Hrubes20 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:10 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Maybe they could play Nico in CF, but I don't think the Cubs are going to experiment playing him there this year.


This take didn't age well. :D
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