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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:54 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:OBP is only one metric to judge their value on, Almora is at .301 the last two years combined, Pillar is at .285 but Pillar has a higher wOBA and wRC+ in that period and ever since the BABIP dried up around June 2018 Almora is running a .280 and .270 OBP from June and July 2018-present.

And how would Pillar take ABs away from Happ when Happ is clearly better vs RHP and Pillar would just be the RHH caddy and late inning defense guy?


- It's the most important metric and we're talking 1800+ ML PAs of sub-.300 OBPs from Pillar
- What is the Cubs' incentive to platoon Ian Happ at 25 off of his finish last year with a half decade until FA in favor of a one year signing who isn't even actually a good hitter against LHP? For reference Pillar has a .323 wOBA against LHP, Happ .321
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:14 pm

Teams are now 5-0 in arb hearings lol...Eduardo Rodríguez and Josh Hader lost over the past couple days
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Post Count Padder » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:39 pm

Jeremy Hellickson is calling it quits. Some good years here and there. FIP caught up with him after his first couple seasons.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Andy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:56 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Teams are now 5-0 in arb hearings lol...Eduardo Rodríguez and Josh Hader lost over the past couple days

Obligatory 'horsefeathers him he's a racist' stuff aside, if Hader couldn't beat the Brewers in an arbitration case when the way they've used him the last couple of years makes self-evident how valuable he is, then something needs re-examination.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:59 pm

That ruling probably cost Hader $12-20 million on the low side over the next 3 years while he’s in arbitration. There was about a $2.5 million difference this year.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:40 am

Andy wrote:Obligatory 'horsefeathers him he's a racist' stuff aside, if Hader couldn't beat the Brewers in an arbitration case when the way they've used him the last couple of years makes self-evident how valuable he is, then something needs re-examination.


Speaking on Friday, the 25-year-old left-hander said (via Adam McCalvy of MLB.com): “We definitely knew that we were the underdogs going into it. But it’s something that needs to be put out there: Baseball’s always changing, and we’re at a point now that we’re continuing to change, and I think the system needs to change with that. You can see it in baseball now — a lot of relievers aren’t in certain roles that they once were.”

Hader added that the current arbitration setup is “outdated”


Outdated...rigged...tomato/tomahto probably

My guess is the owners want arb tied to WAR and the players will fall for it
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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:04 pm

I'm annoyed I have to hate Brock Holt now. I've followed him going back to his summer playing for the State College Spikes when I was working at the local paper.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Named After Maddux » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:56 pm

With all the SP injuries to the Yankees and Angels coupled with the inevitable move to get under the LT, I’d wonder what Q could bring back. It seems like we talked about it all offseason and the Cubs FO just didn’t get substantial offers to move anyone, but there’s a lot of urgency from teams.
Jettisoning Q would really affect the SP depth and counter all the talk about competing/running the team back out there (through walls) with Ross, but I’d be very interested in seeing if they could acquire Joe Musgrove. He’s cheap and controlled so Pittsburgh would need to get similar controllable value. I wonder if there’s players in the group of Bote, Almora (if they buy the stance changes), relievers out of options (Underwood, Sadler), SP down in the depth chart (Alzolay, Rea, Tyson Miller) that could interest the Pirates. He’s not an all world SP, but he’s pretty intriguing.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Backtobanks » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:48 pm

Named After Maddux wrote:With all the SP injuries to the Yankees and Angels coupled with the inevitable move to get under the LT, I’d wonder what Q could bring back. It seems like we talked about it all offseason and the Cubs FO just didn’t get substantial offers to move anyone, but there’s a lot of urgency from teams.
Jettisoning Q would really affect the SP depth and counter all the talk about competing/running the team back out there (through walls) with Ross, but I’d be very interested in seeing if they could acquire Joe Musgrove. He’s cheap and controlled so Pittsburgh would need to get similar controllable value. I wonder if there’s players in the group of Bote, Almora (if they buy the stance changes), relievers out of options (Underwood, Sadler), SP down in the depth chart (Alzolay, Rea, Tyson Miller) that could interest the Pirates. He’s not an all world SP, but he’s pretty intriguing.


With all of the injuries, I keep wondering why Theo can't trade Chatwood to clear salary. We wouldn't get much, but all we need to do is dump his salary essentially.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Backtobanks » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:32 pm

From MLBTR: "Following injuries to Luis Severino and James Paxton, the Yankees have reached out to the Mets to inquire on the availability of left-hander Steven Matz, per Ken Davidoff and Mike Puma of the New York Post. SNY’s Andy Martino tweets that while there’s been contact between the two teams, however, a deal is quite unlikely."

If the Mets won't trade with the Yankees, there ought to be a way we could get Matz either in a trade with the Mets or a 3-way deal involving Quintana/Chatwood
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:40 pm

Backtobanks wrote:From MLBTR: "Following injuries to Luis Severino and James Paxton, the Yankees have reached out to the Mets to inquire on the availability of left-hander Steven Matz, per Ken Davidoff and Mike Puma of the New York Post. SNY’s Andy Martino tweets that while there’s been contact between the two teams, however, a deal is quite unlikely."

If the Mets won't trade with the Yankees, there ought to be a way we could get Matz either in a trade with the Mets or


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Backtobanks wrote:a 3-way deal

ah there it is, now take us home

Backtobanks wrote:involving Quintana/Chatwood
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Backtobanks » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:48 am

Backtobanks wrote:From MLBTR: "Following injuries to Luis Severino and James Paxton, the Yankees have reached out to the Mets to inquire on the availability of left-hander Steven Matz, per Ken Davidoff and Mike Puma of the New York Post. SNY’s Andy Martino tweets that while there’s been contact between the two teams, however, a deal is quite unlikely."

If the Mets won't trade with the Yankees, there ought to be a way we could get Matz either in a trade with the Mets or a 3-way deal involving Quintana/Chatwood


Sorry for the suggestion, I forgot that our FO hasn't returned from their 6 month hiatus.
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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:42 pm

Add another arm back into the mix

The Orioles have decided against carrying both of their Rule 5 selections from the December draft, GM Mike Elias told media members including Jon Meoli of the Baltimore Sun (via Twitter). The departures of righties Brandon Bailey and Michael Rucker will open two 40-man roster spots.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:21 pm

Yairo Munoz should sign here to get his revenge
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TomtheBombadil wrote:Yairo Munoz should sign here to get his revenge

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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:47 pm

Some of you might be surprised to hear that any extension talks between Indians and Lindor have gone nowhere and he shut it down to get ready for the season. Iunno if Theo knows this or not, but we'd get over Hoerner, Marquez, and Davis as quickly as they were annointed for yet another MVP candidate on the ML roster. Hell, I bet three new guys would be annointed as The Future by midsommar to go with a monster of a ML roster
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Derwood » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:49 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Some of you might be surprised to hear that any extension talks between Indians and Lindor have gone nowhere and he shut it down to get ready for the season. Iunno if Theo knows this or not, but we'd get over Hoerner, Marquez, and Davis as quickly as they were annointed for yet another MVP candidate on the ML roster. Hell, I bet three new guys would be annointed as The Future by midsommar to go with a monster of a ML roster


What gives you any indication that Lindor would sign an extension with the Cubs?
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:51 pm

Derwood wrote:What gives you any indication that Lindor would sign an extension with the Cubs?


Extension? Give me those sweet sweet two years of powerful control before FA and we can see from there
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

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TomtheBombadil wrote:
Derwood wrote:What gives you any indication that Lindor would sign an extension with the Cubs?


Extension? Give me those sweet sweet two years of powerful control before FA and we can see from there


Follow up question: what makes you think the Ricketts would be willing to pay him what he'll win in arbitration?
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:13 pm

^^ I don't know?

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Seems like a talented group of players are out of options this year:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/03/ ... -2020.html

Jorge Mateo with the A's, already getting interest from teams, could make alot of sense as a speed guy off the bench with the ability to play SS, 2B, and CF. He's one of the fastest guys in the pros. I like Franklin Barreto and Anthony Alford among other fallen top prospects but not sure I'd trade anyone for either right now....Cody Reed...Jeff Hoffman...Fulmer...All would have to clear waivers before being sent back to the minors, which could make for a cheap-ish trade opportunity maybe? Eeeh, I do like Mateo more than maybe I should on this roster
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CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/mlbpipeline/status/1242093256202125328?s=21

That's....more than I was expecting to give up.
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