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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:33 pm

So in a season where Amaya is the only guy to really set a badass track to the majors, this Richard Gallardo signing has really caught my interest. He became the highest ranked amateur pitcher this FO has signed and the highest ranked amateur they’ve brought in since Happ in 2015. I wonder where scouts inside and outside the org think he can be in 4 years at 20? Hopefully an athletic 6’3” 240 with control and command of mid-upper 90’s and a wipeout secondary. At 16 he is already listed at 6'1" 187 with some long arms and legs. The clips BA put up suggest a power pitcher's approach with lots of four seams up, often inside, in tandem with a curveball I'm hoping stays a curveball with more velocity and power. He seems both aggressive, intuitive, and confident on the mound.

Piling up all those teenagers is slowly but going to slowly start to paying off for the farm over the next couple years. Ademan may have stunk it up this year but Amaya stepped right up, Gallardo is a potential very big add, Jose Gutierrez snuck into full season ball and has an XBH in 10% of his PAs, Marquez gained velocity, Velazquez's RH power is loud, Roederer has come in strong, Davis has shown more bat to ball skills than maybe expected of a tall two sport guy...I believe this wave of talent forming behind the current bunch of players in AA and AAA will be the most exciting wave of talent since the 2015 farm plus the org players out of the bunch will be of a little higher quality than today's. No one's a serious threat to arrive to the majors before say 2021-2022, but that works just fine given where the ML club is.
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Re: Minor League Musings place holder.

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:15 am

BA’s best tools: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... gue-tools/

Best control in the SL: Duncan Robinson
Best defensive SS in the SL: Zack Short
Best defensive C in the MWL: Miguel Amaya
Best defensive 1B in the MWL: Jared Young
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Postby Bertz » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:25 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA’s best tools: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... gue-tools/

Best control in the SL: Duncan Robinson
Best defensive SS in the SL: Zack Short
Best defensive C in the MWL: Miguel Amaya
Best defensive 1B in the MWL: Jared Young


I didn't realize Short was a plus defender. If that's true he's interesting, potentially a Zack Cozart type. Cozart was/is more of a contact guy, but Short could take a different route to a similar OBP/SLG.
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Postby Regular Show » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:36 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA’s best tools: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... gue-tools/

Best control in the SL: Duncan Robinson
Best defensive SS in the SL: Zack Short
Best defensive C in the MWL: Miguel Amaya
Best defensive 1B in the MWL: Jared Young


Wait, I thought Jared Young was a 2B? Maybe he plays there and acts as a utility guy?
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Postby craig » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:28 am

Young's played almost exclusively 1B.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:00 am

FWIW Davenport has Short at +5 DRS this season
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:26 am

craig wrote:Young's played almost exclusively 1B.


But he can definitely play 2B and possibly corner OF.
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Postby Regular Show » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:18 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
craig wrote:Young's played almost exclusively 1B.


But he can definitely play 2B and possibly corner OF.


Yeah, he was drafted as a 2B and I know he can play there. Not surprised he's good at 1B when he's capable of playing harder positions defensively.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:53 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:FWIW Davenport has Short at +5 DRS this season


I saw that and was shocked a bit. I've seen multiple games of Short and would have classified it as average defense at SS. But then again, that was just the eye test and I'm obviously not a scout.
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Postby davell » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:27 pm

Matt Swarmer was a 19th-rounder in 2016 out of Kutztown (a small PA school which has given us John Mobley, Andre Reed, Ryan Vogelsong, and my high-school chem teacher, end of list) who fits an archetype targeted by the Cubs many times in recent drafts: deceptive college arms. Swarmer’s delivery, which is similar to that of Josh Collmenter’s, makes for a very uncomfortable at-bat. His three-pitch mix includes a low-90s fastball, tilting low-80s slider, and firm changeup. All are fringey on their own but play up because of hitters’ discomfort with Swarmer’s delivery. Pitchers like this are best suited for spot starts or long relief, which is exactly what the Cubs are trying to cultivate with the high volume of college pitching they’ve selected in recent years as a way of creating depth behind their fairly shallow big-league staff.
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Postby Regular Show » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:32 pm

davell wrote:Matt Swarmer was a 19th-rounder in 2016 out of Kutztown (a small PA school which has given us John Mobley, Andre Reed, Ryan Vogelsong, and my high-school chem teacher, end of list) who fits an archetype targeted by the Cubs many times in recent drafts: deceptive college arms. Swarmer’s delivery, which is similar to that of Josh Collmenter’s, makes for a very uncomfortable at-bat. His three-pitch mix includes a low-90s fastball, tilting low-80s slider, and firm changeup. All are fringey on their own but play up because of hitters’ discomfort with Swarmer’s delivery. Pitchers like this are best suited for spot starts or long relief, which is exactly what the Cubs are trying to cultivate with the high volume of college pitching they’ve selected in recent years as a way of creating depth behind their fairly shallow big-league staff.


You should probably attribute that to Eric Longenhagen of Fangraphs. It looks like your scouting report right now lol.

I like Matt Swarmer and think he could become a useful reliever.
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Re: Minor League Musings place holder.

Postby davell » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:49 pm

Regular Show wrote:
davell wrote:Matt Swarmer was a 19th-rounder in 2016 out of Kutztown (a small PA school which has given us John Mobley, Andre Reed, Ryan Vogelsong, and my high-school chem teacher, end of list) who fits an archetype targeted by the Cubs many times in recent drafts: deceptive college arms. Swarmer’s delivery, which is similar to that of Josh Collmenter’s, makes for a very uncomfortable at-bat. His three-pitch mix includes a low-90s fastball, tilting low-80s slider, and firm changeup. All are fringey on their own but play up because of hitters’ discomfort with Swarmer’s delivery. Pitchers like this are best suited for spot starts or long relief, which is exactly what the Cubs are trying to cultivate with the high volume of college pitching they’ve selected in recent years as a way of creating depth behind their fairly shallow big-league staff.


You should probably attribute that to Eric Longenhagen of Fangraphs. It looks like your scouting report right now lol.

I like Matt Swarmer and think he could become a useful reliever.


Oops,yeah lol.
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Re: Minor League Musings place holder.

Postby Tim » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:43 pm

Our top 9 prospects according to...Jim Bowden:

Top 9 Prospects: 1. Miguel Amaya, C; 2. Alex Lange, RHP; 3. Nico Hoerner, SS; 4. Brailyn Marquez, LHP; 5. Adbert Alzolay, RHP; 6. Justin Steele, LHP; 7. Aramis Ademan, SS; 8. Brendon Little, LHP; 9. Duane Underwood Jr., RHP.


He also ranks our system 19th. Which is somehow four better than the team set to dominate the division for years.


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Postby PackLandVA » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:57 am

Just one man's opinion, but I like that there's some some pitching in there - 6 out of 9.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:13 am

PackLandVA wrote:Just one man's opinion, but I like that there's some some pitching in there - 6 out of 9.

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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:46 am

Of the gazillion random teenagers signed over the past 4 summers, maybe one can be as fun as Ronald Acuna? I’m fine if this player is not ready at 19/20 so long as he exists and plays for the Cubs.

Acuna hit his 20th HR tonight. He plays for an org I hate ( everyone should especially the locals ) but he seems like a pretty badass player. Hopefully he doesn’t Puig his career or worse
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Postby Brian » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:17 am

Anybody interesting on the Beloit Snappers (A's) or Cedar Rapids Kernels (Twins)? Probably going to go to a game in Beloit next weekend.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:19 am

Brian wrote:Anybody interesting on the Beloit Snappers (A's) or Cedar Rapids Kernels (Twins)? Probably going to go to a game in Beloit next weekend.


Akil Baddoo on the Kernels and Lazaro Armenteros on the Snappers
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:28 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Brian wrote:Anybody interesting on the Beloit Snappers (A's) or Cedar Rapids Kernels (Twins)? Probably going to go to a game in Beloit next weekend.


Akil Baddoo on the Kernels and Lazaro Armenteros on the Snappers


Nick Allen and Austin Beck for Beloit too. And Trevor Larnach for Cedar Rapids.
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This is encouraging news.
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Postby javy knows my name » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:56 pm

I love that they're trying to Arrieta one of Webster or Hultzen right now. What was Webster's deal? I remember him as a top prospect for Dodgers who was rumored in big trades (which also included Eovaldi, IIRC) years back. Injuries or ineffectiveness?
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:03 pm

javy knows my name wrote:I love that they're trying to Arrieta one of Webster or Hultzen right now. What was Webster's deal? I remember him as a top prospect for Dodgers who was rumored in big trades (which also included Eovaldi, IIRC) years back. Injuries or ineffectiveness?

I think they’re more trying to Morrow them. Don’t think they will be starters ever, but potentially good relievers
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Postby Hrubes20 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:08 pm

Regular Show wrote:

This is encouraging news.


Nice! I had visions of him sitting 82-84 and fooling teenagers in the AZL with breaking stuff.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:32 am

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javy knows my name wrote:I love that they're trying to Arrieta one of Webster or Hultzen right now. What was Webster's deal? I remember him as a top prospect for Dodgers who was rumored in big trades (which also included Eovaldi, IIRC) years back. Injuries or ineffectiveness?


I think they’re more trying to Morrow them. Don’t think they will be starters ever, but potentially good relievers


Yep, big difference in arm health and (then) recent history between an Arrieta candidate and these guys

Basically hoping for like a Joe Kelly ish MLer from Webster and Hultzen maybe a LH that can throw strikes with his fastball and spin a good breaking ball
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