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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:20 am

David wrote:Going to be lazy and just link to Brett's summaries instead of the actual articles

http://www.bleachernation.com/2015/01/0 ... r-bullets/

Main takeaway - deals have opt outs so we can work out a longer term deal before 2019 if possible

Hopefully the ratings are crazy good next year


Even though this is not entirely comparable, I am going to assume it will similar to the situation from 1998 and 2003. In both cases it was relatively easy to get tickets early in the year, and it wasn't until the second half, when people really realized something good was happening, that you started to see 40,000 seats sold for games. And it was the following season that really saw the biggest demand for tickets in February. I am going to guess ratings will have a little boost early in the season, but unless things really click immediately, they will take a while to pick-up. And it may not be until 2016 when you see a real boost, assuming 2015 ends up being good.
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Re: Cubs TV Deal Stuff

Postby David » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:31 am

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David wrote:Going to be lazy and just link to Brett's summaries instead of the actual articles

http://www.bleachernation.com/2015/01/0 ... r-bullets/

Main takeaway - deals have opt outs so we can work out a longer term deal before 2019 if possible

Hopefully the ratings are crazy good next year


Even though this is not entirely comparable, I am going to assume it will similar to the situation from 1998 and 2003. In both cases it was relatively easy to get tickets early in the year, and it wasn't until the second half, when people really realized something good was happening, that you started to see 40,000 seats sold for games. And it was the following season that really saw the biggest demand for tickets in February. I am going to guess ratings will have a little boost early in the season, but unless things really click immediately, they will take a while to pick-up. And it may not be until 2016 when you see a real boost, assuming 2015 ends up being good.


Don't totally disagree, but this year has more hype than those had leading in. 2003 did have Dusty, but this year Maddon and Lester have created a lot of Cubs hype. I'd think 07 is a more apt comparison. 98 didn't have much in the way of hype or expectations going in, though I remember being excited about the Morandini (lmao) and Rodriguez additions.
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Re: Cubs TV Deal Stuff

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:36 am

David wrote:Don't totally disagree, but this year has more hype than those had leading in. 2003 did have Dusty, but this year Maddon and Lester have created a lot of Cubs hype. I'd think 07 is a more apt comparison. 98 didn't have much in the way of hype or expectations going in, though I remember being excited about the Morandini (lmao) and Rodriguez additions.


Right, it's probably somewhere in between the two. On one hand, there is more hype, on the other hand, 2007 was a couple years removed from back to back great seasons. 2014 is coming off five straight horrific seasons where people have fled the bandwagon, attendance and ratings are way down and people have more and more choices to spend their entertainment dollar, including more people who have cut the proverbial cord than was the case last decade.

So you have more hype this year but it is starting from a point of greater apathy as well.
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Re: Cubs TV Deal Stuff

Postby David » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:38 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:
David wrote:Don't totally disagree, but this year has more hype than those had leading in. 2003 did have Dusty, but this year Maddon and Lester have created a lot of Cubs hype. I'd think 07 is a more apt comparison. 98 didn't have much in the way of hype or expectations going in, though I remember being excited about the Morandini (lmao) and Rodriguez additions.


Right, it's probably somewhere in between the two. On one hand, there is more hype, on the other hand, 2007 was a couple years removed from back to back great seasons. 2014 is coming off five straight horrific seasons where people have fled the bandwagon, attendance and ratings are way down and people have more and more choices to spend their entertainment dollar, including more people who have cut the proverbial cord than was the case last decade.

So you have more hype this year but it is starting from a point of greater apathy as well.


I think we should have a decent indicator soon with the Cubs Convention and then single game ticket sales. IIRC, they have had relative trouble selling convention tickets the past few years, right?

Actually I think they might have sold out already.
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Re: Cubs TV Deal Stuff

Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:43 am

I don't think cubs convention will tell us anything.


Only a certain segment of weirdo die hards attend that thing and they were probably still hanging around despite the general apathy. A one-off sellout of a three day event coming directly on the heals of the Lester hype is something different from people actually tuning in to 3.5 hour baseball games every day in May.
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Postby David » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:02 am

FWIW:

2002 - 8th in average home attendance (2.7M, 34,513/game, 87.2%), 6th in average overall attendance.
2003 - 6th (2.9M, 37,032/game, 93.6%), 3rd
2004 - 6th (3.1M, 39,138/game, 98.9%), 3rd

2006 - 6th (3.1M, 39,040/game, 94.9%), 5th
2007 - 6th (3.3M, 40,153/game, 97.7%), 5th
2008 - 7th (3.3M, 40,743/game, 99.1%), 4th

2014 - 11th (2.7M, 32,742/game, 79.6%), 8th

So, without knowing how bad the no-show issue was in 2014 compared to 2002, paid attendance was pretty similar, but a greater capacity in 2014 (and a lesser percentage of seats sold).

Also noticed halfway through that I probably should've included the capacity rank, as the landscape in that regard changed over the years. Oh well.
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Postby J.R. » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:53 am

The Sheraton is sold out, but you can still buy individual passes AFAIK.

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Postby David » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:54 am

J.R. wrote:The Sheraton is sold out, but you can still buy individual passes AFAIK.


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#CubsConvention weekend passes and Sheraton hotel packages are sold out. A few W Lakeshore hotel packages remain: http://atmlb.com/1Dt3q3y
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How about that!

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Postby Derwood » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:17 pm

The Sheraton has been sold out since before Christmas

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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:27 pm

The D'Backs just signed a new TV deal worth somewhere between $1-1.5 billion, according to MLBTR
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Postby treebird » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:44 pm

local peoria news said tonight that my59 waoe is picking up the 45 cubs games from wgn this summer.

hurray hurray!

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Postby Banedon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:17 am

Treymon wrote:local peoria news said tonight that my59 waoe is picking up the 45 cubs games from wgn this summer.

hurray hurray!


Awesome! I kinda figured, cuz they've done a lot of that kind of thing with the Cubs and Bulls before. I wonder how many we'll be left without then?

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Postby Keyris » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:30 pm

Banedon wrote:
Treymon wrote:local peoria news said tonight that my59 waoe is picking up the 45 cubs games from wgn this summer.

hurray hurray!


Awesome! I kinda figured, cuz they've done a lot of that kind of thing with the Cubs and Bulls before. I wonder how many we'll be left without then?


Nice! I will finally be able to watch some games at home. :D :D

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Postby ctcf » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:38 am

Guys apparently Derwood is too busy to care about this thread so let's all talk here.

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Postby David » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:45 am

ctcf wrote:Guys apparently Derwood is too busy to care about this thread so let's all talk here.


lmao

seriously tho on topic, the ratings today should be absurd for a day game
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Postby Banedon » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:46 am

David wrote:
ctcf wrote:Guys apparently Derwood is too busy to care about this thread so let's all talk here.


lmao

seriously tho on topic, the ratings today should be absurd for a day game


You gotta imagine that MLB network is gonna horn in on this too.

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Postby halplm » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:12 pm

Banedon wrote:
David wrote:
ctcf wrote:Guys apparently Derwood is too busy to care about this thread so let's all talk here.


lmao

seriously tho on topic, the ratings today should be absurd for a day game


You gotta imagine that MLB network is gonna horn in on this too.


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Postby SouthSideRyan » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:04 pm

Couldn't find a separate topic on the radio deal, but CSN just reported that we're likely heading to The Score next season. Apparently had a 1 time opt out after this season to leave for The Score. Sox are moving to 890.
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Postby UMFan83 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:14 pm

SouthSideRyan wrote:Couldn't find a separate topic on the radio deal, but CSN just reported that we're likely heading to The Score next season. Apparently had a 1 time opt out after this season to leave for The Score. Sox are moving to 890.


Awesome, we will get extra coverage on that station now.
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Postby Banedon » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:20 am

SouthSideRyan wrote:Couldn't find a separate topic on the radio deal, but CSN just reported that we're likely heading to The Score next season. Apparently had a 1 time opt out after this season to leave for The Score. Sox are moving to 890.


Yeah, they got the info from Feder...

http://www.robertfeder.com/2015/06/23/w ... io-rights/

Apparently the Cubs WBBM deal has a one time "out" after this season, so this was pretty clearly a strong possibility.

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Re: Cubs TV Deal Stuff

Postby seanimal » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:46 am

interesting. why would the sox move?
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Postby Irrelevant Dude » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:49 am

Hopefully the Cubs will get the same pre/post game coverage that the Sox had on the Score. I have to admit that I'm a little jealous of the Sox moving to 890 though. That frequency has the strongest, clearest signal of anything on the AM dial for me.
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Postby Banedon » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:50 am

seanimal wrote:interesting. why would the sox move?


Maybe The Score didn't want them anymore? They would rather have the Cubs?

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Postby UMFan83 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:51 am

seanimal wrote:interesting. why would the sox move?


Probably were offered more money.

Apparently WGN was in the running for the Sox too...would have been funny to have the Cubs on 670 and the Sox on 720 after the last 10 years of it being reversed.
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