2021 Draft Thread

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:27 pm

Watched some of Leiter vs. Ryan Webb last night, and have to say that Leiter's offspeeds really are boring. I expected more of the curveball, his signature pitcher in high school. TBF, I didn't really pay too much attention to Leiter since he's not dropping to the Cubs anyway and I was distracted

Neither guy really threw hard but both got whiffs on the fastball, way more for Leiter. Webb got most of his swings and misses on the slider and changeup

Andrew Abbott got hit around by Clemson a little bit, Jordan Wicks was 91-95 in his start against Texas and Ty Madden, Macleod gave up another HR in an otherwise good start, Hajjar was alright for Michigan



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Lonwsway has a better shot at the first than other college lefties, but if he's there's in the 2nd....6 HRs and 228 Ks in 155 innings between the NCAA and CCBL...got hit around a little by Michigan today (still K'd 10) but I can see like a LH Seth Lugo-ish pitcher:



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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:07 am

First round pick, I don't even hate him for Cubs but also shouldn't make it there:



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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:00 am

MLB Pipeline updated top 150: https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:58 am

Jobe at 6 is interesting, saw he hit 99 in his last start too. McDaniel has him in the top 10 too:



That #149 (Brandon Clarke) on Pipeline's list is an already TJ'd HS LHP on there because of size and athleticism is funny with Devin Futrell (6'5"), Travis Garnett (6'6" 200+). Clarke's hit 97 and those guys haven't, I guess, but they throw plenty hard (like 98th%) and it's hard to believe a majority actually think he's a better prospect than either

Jordan McCants seems like a sneaky good player in the HS ranks, less power than Watson but a similar 2B-ish profile with leadoff potential

#80 on Pipeline, Trey Sweeney, is a 6'4" LHH SS/MIF/IF at Eastern Illionis hitting .397/.521/.746 with a 29/18 BB:K in 165 PAs. "3 year" starter too
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Fruity29 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:35 pm

I don’t pay too much attention to the “so called experts” ... I am sure these Mocks will changes 100 more times before draft day... The “mockers” just love to see big Velo numbers and actual scouts look for project ability ! But it’s fun watching how the list of names keep changing.....
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:18 am



21) Cubs: Harry Ford, C, North Cobb HS (Ga.)
Ford has an intriguing set of all-around tools, with the ability to really hit and the skills to stick behind the plate, though he’s quick and athletic enough to move elsewhere if needed.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:10 am

^^ Make it stick, Cubs, unless someone else blows up!

CR, do you still follow UCLA's team? Any thoughts on JT Schwartz? I see a 6'4" LHH 1B with a 20:9 BB/K hitting .412/.526/.612, weirdly enough my main knock is that I'm still not a huge fan of RH 1B rather than the probably not elite IsoSLG. Can he play 1B or is he one of those hitters in the "totally definitely anyone can play 1B" bucket who can't play it well at all?

As I typed that checked out Jacob Teter's (6'6" L/L 1B) season...362/.516/.745 with a 14:11 BB/K in 64 PAs so far. He'll leave as a 4 year starter + hit some in the CCBL
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:18 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:^^ Make it stick, Cubs, unless someone else blows up!

CR, do you still follow UCLA's team? Any thoughts on JT Schwartz? I see a 6'4" LHH 1B with a 20:9 BB/K hitting .412/.526/.612, weirdly enough my main knock is that I'm still not a huge fan of RH 1B rather than the probably not elite IsoSLG. Can he play 1B or is he one of those hitters in the "totally definitely anyone can play 1B" bucket who can't play it well at all?

As I typed that checked out Jacob Teter's (6'6" L/L 1B) season...362/.516/.745 with a 14:11 BB/K in 64 PAs so far. He'll leave as a 4 year starter + hit some in the CCBL


He can definitely play 1B (he’s even dabbled at 3B in summer leagues). The power is new and hopefully that sticks but the biggest question is definitely health concerns.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:46 pm



21 James Wood IMG Academy, Bradenton, Fla. OF
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There’s been some chatter within scouting circles that Wood is sliding and his selection here by the Cubs could represent one of the bigger steals of the class. Wood has some of the biggest pure upside in the 2021 class thanks to his power potential, athleticism, bat speed and size—it wasn’t long ago that he was considered a potential top-five pick by some scouts. He performed well over the summer and showed power against top pitchers, but he’s shown more swing and miss than some scouts are comfortable with this spring. Perhaps this is a case of nit-picking or prospect fatigue, because as one upper-level scout put it, “if he didn’t swing and miss he would be going 1-1.”


Harry Ford went 18 to the Cardinals.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby CubinNY » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:32 pm

James Wood, what a great name for a power-hitting outfielder or porn star.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed May 05, 2021 11:39 pm

https://www.mlb.com/news/mock-mlb-draft-2021-may-5

21. Cubs: Michael McGreevy, RHP, UC Santa Barbara

No college pitcher has more helium right now than McGreevy, who endears himself to clubs with his combination of pitch data, polish and performance. He struck out 15 while permitting just two hits and no walks against Cal Poly in his last start.


A college RH?! So two years ago

Cubs pass on Ford in this mock, Joe Mack is the first HS C off the board, de Castillo doesn’t go until pick 20 to the Yankees, other stuff
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu May 06, 2021 1:18 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:https://www.mlb.com/news/mock-mlb-draft-2021-may-5

21. Cubs: Michael McGreevy, RHP, UC Santa Barbara

No college pitcher has more helium right now than McGreevy, who endears himself to clubs with his combination of pitch data, polish and performance. He struck out 15 while permitting just two hits and no walks against Cal Poly in his last start.


A college RH?! So two years ago

Cubs pass on Ford in this mock, Joe Mack is the first HS C off the board, de Castillo doesn’t go until pick 20 to the Yankees, other stuff


McGreevy sounds like a Cleveland Baseball Team pick.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Named After Maddux » Thu May 06, 2021 5:28 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:https://www.mlb.com/news/mock-mlb-draft-2021-may-5

21. Cubs: Michael McGreevy, RHP, UC Santa Barbara

No college pitcher has more helium right now than McGreevy, who endears himself to clubs with his combination of pitch data, polish and performance. He struck out 15 while permitting just two hits and no walks against Cal Poly in his last start.


A college RH?! So two years ago

Cubs pass on Ford in this mock, Joe Mack is the first HS C off the board, de Castillo doesn’t go until pick 20 to the Yankees, other stuff


McGreevy sounds like a Cleveland Baseball Team pick.


He does fit Cleveland’s MO. But there’s people in the Cubs org that are pounding the table for McGreevy. I’m still surprised it’s in round one, but he’s been impressing a lot of teams.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri May 07, 2021 3:26 pm

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/Vi ... icle=19372

Speaking of guys who seem like Cleveland pitching picks, Bubba Chandler is the latest prep mocked to the Cubs. He’s a RHP/SS and a QB recruit for Clemson. The consensus seems to be he is a pitcher, I’d agree, but it’s not not interesting that he’s a 6’3” switch hitting SS

OTOH, as far as I can tell, the only HS RHP I’d use a first on is Chase Petty maaaaaaaybe Kudrna
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Postby NOLA » Sat May 08, 2021 1:37 am



He had 10 K through 3 IP and ends with 15 K through 5 IP.
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Good news, this draft needs him and competition is a little stiff next year maybe. As talented as this year's group of HS SSs are, I suspect they're being forced up a little bit due to the lack of college bats
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat May 08, 2021 10:39 pm



Must have been a mid-week injury.
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Postby CubinNY » Tue May 11, 2021 4:31 pm

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Postby Bertz » Tue May 11, 2021 4:52 pm

HARD pass on not going with Jaden Hill in that scenario.
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Postby OleMissCub » Tue May 11, 2021 5:05 pm

That’s brutal

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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue May 11, 2021 5:51 pm

Bertz wrote:HARD pass on not going with Jaden Hill in that scenario.


I'm expecting Hill to go to a team with a comp pick or high second rounder because they'll be able to manage the extra bonus demands and are better able to handle the additional risk. Maybe with Hoglund now needing TJS too, both of them can't be funneled to teams with more bonus space.

Even with his swing changes that match up with improved contact, I'm not a fan of Fabian. I just am not comfortable with guys who strike out so much in college (call it Brett Jackson flashbacks if you will but it's not like the Dodgers were able to fix Jeren Kendall's contact issues).
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm

I'd bet, no I wouldn't but will say I would, that Fabian goes back to school. He's 21 next year and the way he's hitting lately could relatively easily regain his status. This year it's Ks, next year it'll be a lack of leveragez (since he'll be a senior)...these guys can't win and that's the present and even more so the future of the draft

As far as Fabian today....I'm impressed by the combo of age, CF defense (would maybe easily be the best in the org), overall track record including hitting in the CCBL at 18, and the way he's been hitting lately. I'd also throw in that Bryant K'd plenty in college without a pandemic taking away hundreds of documented game reps, and I'm pretty sure rates overall were lower then too, so I don't want to be too quick to crush an otherwise elite player for one obvious flaw. THAT said, I don't think a successful Fabian is crazy different from a successful Davis or Roederer, and he's not way more obviously certain than either at this point - the #1 reason to take a college bat
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Bertz » Tue May 11, 2021 6:51 pm

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Bertz wrote:HARD pass on not going with Jaden Hill in that scenario.


I'm expecting Hill to go to a team with a comp pick or high second rounder because they'll be able to manage the extra bonus demands and are better able to handle the additional risk. Maybe with Hoglund now needing TJS too, both of them can't be funneled to teams with more bonus space.

Even with his swing changes that match up with improved contact, I'm not a fan of Fabian. I just am not comfortable with guys who strike out so much in college (call it Brett Jackson flashbacks if you will but it's not like the Dodgers were able to fix Jeren Kendall's contact issues).


Yeah, it feels like a team like the Tigers, picking at both 3 and 32, would make the most sense. But the White Sox have essentially equal draft capital to the Cubs if I'm not mistaken, so I'd be pissed if we passed on him and a team like them nabs him.
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